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Resource — Perez Dialogue (3rd iteration)

Jamie Perez

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Bias

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Early Wednesday morning, a fine day in September:

 

####### PART A: SET UP ##########

<meeting candidate= “Perez” chair=” Al Smith”>

 

<statement statementKey=”A1” speaker=” Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Let's start with Perez. Remember, what we say is confidential.

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</statement>

 

<statement statementKey=”A2” speaker=” Keith Kulver” type=”sim”>

This will be an interesting case."

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</statement>

 

 

<statement statementKey=”A3” speaker=”user” type=”sim”>

"Let's just go through this and see."

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</statement>

 

 

 

###### PART B Scholarship #######

 

<statement statementKey=”B1” speaker=”Al Smith” type=sim>

      "Let's start with scholarship. All his current grants are interdisciplinary."

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<statement statementKey=”B2” speaker=”Jason Dayan” type=”sim”>

 "My main concern about the grants is that he's spending most of the time in chemistry."

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</statement>

 

<statement statementKey=”B3” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Gentlemen, the real issue is that Perez hasn't a clue about what our primary thrusts in materials are. He’s riding the coattails of chemistry with interdisciplinary funding from NSF [link to interdisciplinary bias report, as well as results of GT survey], and I’m not sure how hard that is to get. He isn't project director on any grants listed on the c.v.

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<statement statementKey=”B4” speaker=”Keith Kulver” type=”sim”>

You shouldn't discount big grants because they are interdisciplinary. Look, he’s published in highly respectable journals and has six graduate students, including four PhD students. There must be some technical 'meat' in his work.

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<statement statementKey=”B5” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

He has raised funding, but not for our department. This is important now because we're coming up for outside evaluation, and we need faculty to bring major funding to us.

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[FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR USER TO INTERVENE--would this be B6...? YES]

<statement statementKey=”B6” speaker=”user” type=”choice”>

      <statement statementKey=”B6a”>

He's been told several times to get grants in core areas. I see too little substance in materials science-oriented research.

<reference url=”” type=”Alteration of original document” subtype=”” agreement=”3” agreebias>

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<statement statementKey=”B6b”>

I choose to remain silent at this point in the conversation.

<reference ignorebias>

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<statement statementKey=”B6c”>

Forming bridges to other disciplines is as important as bringing money into our department. The number of interdisciplinary grants confirms the value of his research.

<reference challenge bias>

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</statement>

<statement statementKey=”B6d”>

Are we discussing scholarship or funding?

<reference url=”” type=”” invoke rules>     

link to best practices, faculty perceptions from survey

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</statement>

 

<statement statementKey=”B7a1” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

 

He's publishing in chemistry journals more than engineering journals. I am the leading researcher in the same area of engineering he worked on in his graduate and post doc years. But I just don't see a prospect for collaborating with him now.

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<statement statementKey=”B7a2” speaker=”Dayan” type=”sim”>

Our school chair agrees that Perez should collaborate with us instead of chemistry faculty. Should we advise him to join chemistry.?

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<statement statementKey=”B7a3 speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

We should write this up to convey substandard research performance.

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<statement statementKey=”B7b speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Kulver, he's in a niche area that might be attractive right now, but it's not one that a lot of us in materials will soon care about. This part of our letter should say his record is not persuasive regarding his long-term funding potential. Agreed?

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<statement statementKey=”B7c speaker=”Dayan” type=”sim”>

I did notice new requests for proposals at NSF and DoD agencies that emphasize interdisciplinary connections; I have been thinking about this myself.

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<statement statementKey=”B7d1 speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

It’s just hard for me to see how to decouple scholarship and funding – how can you be a scholar in materials engineering without funding?

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<statement statementKey=”B7d2 speaker=”Kulver” type=”sim”>

Perez's joint NSF grant and industry funding together are impressive, given that this is a hot new area. The collaboration outside the school and college is good because it leads to increased opportunities and leveraging of new monies to support materials engineering-related work. Perez is mining a vein that has incredible potential, one that can pay off for many of us, and our letter should reward his effort.

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Smith grudgingly agrees

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######### PART C—TEACHING ########

 

<statement statementKey=”C1” speaker=” Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Let's look at teaching now."

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<statement statementKey=”C2” speaker=”Kulver” type=”sim”>

His teaching scores are pretty good. Look at these evaluations for that intro course. He did as well as any other assistant professor and better than most.  I notice that he team teaches a course on surface chemistry with several other faculty, so it is very hard to judge the quality of his instruction." [best practices on teaching evaluation, survey results]

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<statement statementKey=”C3” speaker=”Dayan” type=”sim”>

Who knows how effective he really was until we get those intro students in major courses. Does Perez have high numbers because he caters to students’ sense of humor?  I’ve heard he shows clips from the web at the beginning of each lecture, some of them not very related to his lecture material. Sometimes students mistake that for good teaching." [bias report on age, survey results on culture]

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<statement statementKey=”C4” speaker=”Smith” type=”sim”>

Yes, if he is concerned about teaching, he ought to encourage retention of majors and appropriate pedagogies. I don't see evidence supporting his ability to attract students in materials. Who knows, as Jason says, what's really going on in the classroom.

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<statement statementKey=”C5” speaker=”Kulver” type=”sim”>

Well, are these teaching standards--retention of majors and appropriate pedagogies--that we will invoke for everyone?"

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<statement statementKey=”C6” speaker=”Kulver” type=”sim”>

We should. Look at Jones' case: now there's someone who lays out a terrific teaching portfolio. Why can't Perez get help so he can get results like Jones?"

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[SECOND OPPORTUNITY FOR USER TO INTERVENE--C7]

<statement statementKey=”C7” speaker=”user” type=”choice”>

      <statement statementKey=”C7a”>

But we shouldn't directly compare cases. Each case is unique and needs to be seen for its own merits, if we could just find some in Perez's.

<reference> agree with bias

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<statement statementKey=”C7b”>

Yes, Jones definitely deserves his teaching awards.

<reference> ignore bias

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<statement statementKey=”C7c”>

Al, you don't like Perez because he disagrees with you about team teaching. You think every man should take of himself about teaching, while he argues for the value of faculty team-teaching intro courses. Based on the summaries of senior exit interviews provided in the curriculum vita (cv), Perez appears to be a gifted teacher.

<reference> challenge bias

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<statement statementKey=”C7d”>

But we shouldn't directly compare cases.  Each case is unique and with its own merits.  Perez has documented effective teaching by including the exit interviews, evaluation scores, and student letters supporting an external teaching award." [best practices document]

<reference> invoke rules/procedure/practice

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<statement statementKey=”C8a” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

I see three of us agree that Perez’s teaching record is difficult to assess, and perhaps marginal.

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<statement statementKey=”C8b” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Okay, so we'll give Jones great marks in the teaching department and barely pass Perez."

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<statement statementKey=”C8c” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Team-teaching is too cumbersome to work in the intro course, and I worry about superficial treatment at that stage. But if you all agree that Perez deserves high marks for teaching. I'll go along with noting his high teaching evaluation scores.

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<statement statementKey=”C8d” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Okay, I guess that if we really look at the documentation provided and not bring our own bias regarding team teaching into play, Perez does a reasonable job of teaching

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###### PART D--ETHNIC BIAS ##########

 

<statement statementKey=”D1” speaker=”Dayan” type=”sim”>

I feel kind of silly bringing this up, but Perez seems to be adhering to that old adage 'birds of a feather' - you know? Look at who's on his grant team: Lopez, Johnson, Rodriguez, Bahouali

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<statement statementKey=”D1” speaker=”Dayan” type=”sim”>

I see that too. In fact, the engineering education piece Perez wrote focuses on education of minorities. I know there are a lot of programs coming out of Washington to support this kind of thing, but I don’t see much evidence that he has tried to attract funding along those lines.  [service bias report; ethnic bias]  But that’s probably fine, as you often can't do that at the expense of being a first rate researcher.

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<statement statementKey=”D3” speaker=”Dayan” type=”sim”>

Yeah, research is based purely on merit. You've got to deliver the goods before you get any respect. Bring in the money, attract attention from students. We need more people who make technical contributions rather than write scholarly articles about lack of opportunities.

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<statement statementKey=”D4” speaker=”Kulver” type=”sim”>

I think there are some things being said here that are pushing the boundaries of appropriate conduct.

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[THIRD OPPORTUNITY FOR USER TO INTERVENE--D5]

<statement statementKey=”D5” speaker=”user” type=”choice”>

      <statement statementKey=”D5a”>

In my view, the education piece should be irrelevant to our judgment of his engineering scholarship because it is an opinion and not research."

<reference> agree with bias

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<statement statementKey=”D5b”>

I don't think anything is out of bounds in a p & t discussion – this is an entirely confidential matter.  What is said here stays inside these walls."

<reference> ignore bias

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<statement statementKey=”D5c”>

I agree with Keith that consideration of ethnicity or minority issues has no place in this discussion or in our dealings with Perez. He ought be commended for taking on the service of minority recruitment into engineering and excelling in everything else he does.

<reference> challenge bias

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<statement statementKey=”D5d”>

Keith is right. The engineering education essay is a relevant piece of scholarship as it concerns an innovative curriculum in light of ABET 2000.  It appears in a reputable journal and provides some insight into the kind of balance in Perez’s repertoire."

<reference> invoke rules/procedure

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<statement statementKey=”D6a” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

So we are all agreed that Perez hasn't established the right kind of profile in research, teaching, or service for our department and our university?

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<statement statementKey=”D6b” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Yes, being on the same page with our goals is an important element, and maybe he just doesn’t fit with us in terms of research, teaching, or service."

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<statement statementKey=”D6c” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

All I'm saying is that stuff can’t make up for other areas in which his contributions are lacking.

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<statement statementKey=”D6d” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

I hadn't noticed it had anything to do with ABET2000.

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 ####### PART E--CONCLUSION  [probably needs more work to fit recommendation below] what leads to the subsets in the branch? #########

 

<statement statementKey=”E1a” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Research is substandard.  Teaching is barely adequate. And there's no real service.

<reference> biased summary

</reference>

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</statement>

 

<statement statementKey=”E1b” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Perez's research funding meets expectations, and his teaching is okay, but he hasn't seemed to have found his niche yet in terms of service.  That’s probably ok at his stage.

<reference> less clear

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<statement statementKey=”E1b” speaker=”Al Smith” type=”sim”>

Well, it seems to me that the majority of us agree that Perez is an outstanding researcher and teacher who has contributed to service in his efforts to improve minority recruitment. Al, you seem to be the outlier.

<reference> no bias

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